Doctor Who - spoils for episode titles already aired

[samvara]

prk, amarillion I owe you an apology.

I watched The Poison Sky and (under mynxii’s advice) tried not to think about the science. The disadvantage of this method is that the mental level to which I dropped caused my jaw to relax and subsequent drooling. The Doctor’s Daughter was a refreshing antidote, not, alas, for the science (or the chronology) but for the values that cause me to celebrate Doctor Who again and again.

In short: you were right but I still love the show.

Comments

[angriest.livejournal.com]

No one should watch Doctor Who and think about the science. Those who try should have their hands slapped away from the remote and sent off to watch Star Trek: The Next Generation.

It's not a scientific show. It pretends to me sure, but he's a wizard, his sonic screwdriver is a magic wand and the TARDIS is a roving door to Narnia.

[mynxii.livejournal.com]

Even considering that, I had to -work- to ignore the plot holes. I think it wasn't just the science, but the plot application of it that got to the not working point. I remember having similar feelings after Dalek's of Manhatten, and believe this two parter has been written by the same person (why? why!).

Second watching of it made it that much more obvious. I can understand and support the others in their not as much enjoyment of it.

That said *pets her suspension of disbelief*

[angriest.livejournal.com]

OK, I just finished watching The Poison Sky and didn't mind it. It was deeply average Doctor Who. It was a damn sight better than Helen Raynor's last story ("Sec's in the City") but still not very good.

I wish there were more female writers in Doctor Who. In 30 seasons, there have been six: Helen Raynor, Rona Munro, Jane Baker, Barbara Clegg, Paula Moore and Lesley Scott - and there are some relatively convincing allegations that the last two didn't actually have much to do with the writing of their stories at all. Even in the novels I think there have only been another two: Kate Orman and Lloyd Rose (who not only wrote some amazing Doctor Who but also has written for television - I wonder if it's occured to the production team to approach her?).

[mynxii.livejournal.com]

Yeah - i see what you're saying. Women writers for major tv series = good, would that the writing was better. I want it to be better :( Mind you Sarah Gamble slipped with Supernatural most recently. You'll need to check out black_samvara's and possibly others' to get that story though.

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

I love you as well!

[angriest.livejournal.com]

Haha!! I'm cruel because I care. : )

[angriest.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I've come back to my reply above after a few hours and am suddenly worried it came across as argumentative when I meant it to be silly and facetious.

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Silly boy, you're you - I knew what you meant.

[prk.livejournal.com]

I try not to think about the science.

But when it leaps out of the TV and does a naked jig around the living room chanting abba lyrics and mocking anyone still maintaining a suspension of disbelief, I draw the line.

At that stage, I can't even maintain a suspicion of disbelief.

prk.

[angriest.livejournal.com]

I this about (SPOILER for The Poison Sky) the Doctor setting the sky on fire?

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

I was curled up on the couch trying not to cry!

[prk.livejournal.com]

It culminated there, but it's been building over time.

I have no problem with made up techno babble as long as it's consistent.

I have a problem when I can't suspend my disbelief, due to blatant disregard of known physics / science / mechanics. The whole ATMOS system being able to remote control cars (including changing gears) for example.

But yeah - setting the entire atmosphere on fire pushed it well past my ability to suspend disbelief and degrades my enjoyment of the show.

prk.

[e-dan.livejournal.com]

What I like is that in regard to the 'Poison Sky' episode we're FAR more worried about the problem of how they dealt with gravity than the little matter of the presence of the devil ;) Imagine if they'd tried to imply that there was a fully functioning right-wing welfare state! There'd be an uproar ;)

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Pfui! We all know that's not possible.