BSG S3 3x01 & 3x02 thoughts...

[samvara]

Well, well, well.

Well.

Loved the Kara thread; thought playing the munchkin was an unbearably apt and cruel thing to do. Am interested in where Leoben gets his hardon for Kara – Stockholm Syndrome? I don’t get the little hand hold at the end – this is not the act of a woman who has killed Leoben five times in a row over four months.

*loved* Sharon and Adama. Loved it.

Not too keen on Lee. He is a deeply moral man and for him to just give up and be someone who can only function when he has a war doesn’t do justice to the person I thought he was.

Love Tigh, he’s hard and obsessed and utterly focussed. I don’t like him as a person but the character is great.

Interested in the Cylon take on what their mission is. It sounds like Boomer and Six managed to pitch the end of immediate hostilities but didn’t in any way manage to convey a vision where humans and Cylons actually talk to each other. The Cylons turned up as an invading force and seem to have no concept of humans as potential equals. In which case what on earth are they trying to achieve?

Is the vision of human/Cylon relations where humans behave like Centurions?

They need Adama desperately.

Feel a lot of the war commentary is a bit on the cheap side. We already know this, guys, we’ve watched the Americans doing it for years. We know people are stupid and pretty and short-sighted and that it doesn’t work.

Loved the Roslyn/Zarek exchange

Comments

Re: Comments on Comments

[prk.livejournal.com]

Baltar and Avatar Caprica_6 was and still is an intensely passionate relationship between Baltar and a woman who knows no fear or doubt and is utterly committed to her vision of her God. She pushed Baltar every second they were together and also kept him sane and helped him survive. She wasn't trying to pretend he was someone she idealised, she knew who he was and what he was like.

Have we seen Avatar Caprica_6 and Downloaded Caprica_6 in proximity?

It seemed to me, that we only saw Avatar C6 after downloaded C6 was shot.

Re: Comments on Comments

[prk.livejournal.com]

Okay, you've already noticed this. I knew I should have read ahead before replying.

I think it quite significant that we didn't see Avatar C6 until Downloaded C6 had left the building.

We also haven't heard anything more about Downloaded C6's Baltar Avatar.

I wonder if the Baltar Avatar will be present after another download or not.

Re: C6 vs DC6 vs AC6

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

I have an urge to shout "Field Too Large" or something.

I want more data on D6 and what happened to Avatar_Baltar.
I want more data on Baltar and what happens to Avatar_C6.

I do think the avatars are more than subconscious manifestations, I base this solely on there being two of them (repeatable) and AC6 knowing about the baby before they knew about Caprica_Sharon being pregnant (access to knowledge).

I also agree they haven't appeared simultaneously with their live counterparts.

Re: C6 vs DC6 vs AC6

[prk.livejournal.com]

Agreed on the more knowledge factor. Possibly some sort of mental link between the models whilst they're all very alike, which fades as they each get their own personality.

Or not.

Anyhow, here's the next question ...

Have we seen AC6 since DC6 appeared in S02E18?

ie, was AC6 in 19 & 20?

Or was the first we saw of AC6 since then after DC6 was shot?

prk.

Re: C6 vs DC6 vs AC6

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Thanks for clarifying what you meant by mental link.

I don't think Cylon to Cylon mental links are in evidence. I mean this in both a spiritual and technical sense. There appears to be no continuity of knowledge between models other than the initial 'stamp' (mental) and they are indistinguishable from humans and therefore can't update each other via info-dumps (technical).

I do think there is a possible mental link between Baltar and C6.

When AC6 first appeared we were all confused, was she a chip or was she a manifestation of Baltar's conscience?

Baltar getting a scan and confirming there was no chip put an end to the first theory.

AC6 predicting the birth a Cylon/Human child; knowledge that Baltar has no access to; says to me that she is a little more than Baltar's subconscious.

Theory: AC6 is C6/DC6 having an out of body experience while waiting to be downloaded and for some reason C6/DC6 doesn't recall a damn thing when she is 'alive'.

This would explain:
· Why AC6 is only seen when C6/DC6 is 'dead'.
· How AC6 can know things that Baltar does not.

It does not explain:
· Why Avatar_Baltar exists.
· Why AC6 has such a different personality to DC6