Tagging the Supernatural Newsletter on del.icio.us.

[samvara]

spnnewsletter on LJ, Supernatural_fic on del.icio.us, Launch Post - Pie Charts

Supernatural_fic detailed tagging information and error reporting post, comment here with the correct information to have a tagged link updated/fixed.

The Rough Plan:

1. Tag all fic in spnnewsletter including RPF; will not be tagging news, meta or vids etc.
2. URLs will be cleaned of extras such as #cutid, ?style=mine, ?format=light etc.
3. Only one instance of a story told in parts will be tagged. I would like, in an ideal world to link to a master post that links to all chapters of a fic.
   ** I don't automatically ignore a fic if it has 'part 2' on it - I check to see if it's already tagged by searching Supernatural_fic by Author and then I ignore it.
4. Authors who have since deleted their journals / left LJ will be included for stats (tag = LJ:Deleted).
5. Warnings such as deathfic, darkfic, rape, evil!sam, girl!Dean and mpreg will go in the Description/Notes field if noted in spnnewsletter.
6. Put the spnnewsletter edition number in the Description Title field (it's tidier) of the last fic tagged on that edition.

The Detailed Plan:

Title: (fic title)

1. Taken directly from the newsletter; no extra header information included.
2. Words like epilogue, prologue, chapter 5, 9/? and so on will be removed.

Tagging: (search filters)

1. Author. I am using the author identified in the newsletter and add alternate names haphazardly if I know them and if the the author has linked those names publicly - for example the LJ profile identifies the connection. If this is a problem I can change it.
   1. I get conflict when a fic is listed with an author that doesn't match what I can see in the URL, in these cases I try to put in both names.
2. Fandom e.g. Supernatural or Supernatural Firefly Dark:Angel Crossover.
   1. For this purpose CW:RPF is a fandom.
3. Category e.g. Gen, Het, Slash and Genderfuck.
   
   1. Gen cannot be combined with any other Categories, it is defined for these purposes as a story that does not focus on a romantic or sexual relationship. Gen is not a Rating.
4. Pairing if not Gen e.g. Sam/Dean; note Pairing:Not:Known if no pairing listed and not explicitly Gen.
   Separated into Conventional (arbitrarily defined as the 15 most popular), Threesomes (which includes all permutations of group sex) and Unconventional.
   1. Threesomes/foursomes: I'm using the entire list eg. Sam/Dean/Jess and also putting in Sam/Dean, Sam/Jess and Dean/Jess so that the threesome still shows up when you search on Sam/Jess. For obscure characters I'm not breaking them down - I figure you can go look at the threesomes section.
   2. Genderfuck: this tag covers any situation where the canon character was a particular gender and isn't anymore for whatever reason. I'm tagging them as Slash if the canon characters were both male to begin with and as Het if the sex is het.
   3. Shape-shifters and Possessions: the pairing is MotW if the pairing is with a supernatural entity. e.g. Jo/Possessed!Sam - Jo/MotW and Sam/shapeshifter!Dean = Sam/MotW. This may turn out to be a problem but thankfully the numbers are low enough that this can fixed later if a better system presents itself.
5. Rating: See below. Ratings that fall between will always be upped.
6. Challenge: will tag completed challenges when inspired - this will probably involve me becoming aware they exist through a completely random process. Please FEEL FREE to pimp challenge communities to me.
7. Character: (ongoing as of 20th February 2008) this applies to Gen fic only and will include all characters listed in the header, if no characters are listed I will include what I can see from the first page/chapter.

Rating: (suitability for audience)

1. Rating:NC-17 (includes NC-16, 18+, adult liek woah and XXX)
2. Rating:R (includes Adult, Teen and Mature)
3. Rating:PG-13 (includes PG)
4. Rating:G (Includes All Audiences - you don't get this automatically for being Category = Gen)
5. Rating:Not:Known (applies to all fic not explicitly labeled otherwise)
6. Rating:Not:Possible (applies to all locked/since deleted fic I have been unable to rate)

Accuracy: (this is how to fix things)

1. Yeah it's a problem. Even if I assume 95% accuracy that's still a crap-load of errors. I'll data cleanse as I go but I'm not planning anything systematic right now.
2. If you identify something that is incorrect: post here with the correct information and I will update it.

Progress: (this is to keep me motivated)

1. 01 Oct 07. 123/574 = 451 to go or 21.43% complete
2. 05 Oct 07. 152/580 = 428 to go or 26.21% complete
3. 12 Oct 07. 210/586 = 376 to go or 35.84% complete
4. 19 Oct 07. 250/592 = 342 to go or 42.23% complete
5. 27 Oct 07. 300/600 = 300 to go or 50.00% complete
6. 02 Nov07. 350/606 = 256 to go or 57.76% complete
7. 10 Nov07. 400/614 = 214 to go or 65.15% complete
8. 11 Nov07. 450/614 = 164 to go or 73.29% complete
9. 16 Nov07. 500/620 = 120 to go or 80.65% complete
10. 20 Nov07. 550/622 = 072 to go or 88.42% complete
11. 25 Nov07. 600/627 = 027 to go or 95.69% complete

Stats: (this is for fun, yes, fun)

1. Ed 152. Slash = 46.88%, Wincest = 34.98%, Het = 07.48%, Gen = 31.62%, Pairing:Not:Known = 15.59%
2. Ed 210. Slash = 47.18%, Wincest = 34.25%, Het = 07.96%, Gen = 33.63%, Pairing:Not:Known = 12.80%
3. Ed 250. Slash = 47.72%, Wincest = 34.39%, Het = 08.72%, Gen = 33.71%, Pairing:Not:Known = 11.38%
4. Ed 300. Slash = 49.01%, Wincest = 33.87%, Het = 09.50%, Gen = 33.36%, Pairing:Not:Known = 09.88% Femslash 0.05%
5. Ed 350. Slash = 50.42%, Wincest = 34.15%, Het = 10.10%, Gen = 32.96%, Pairing:Not:Known = 08.45% Femslash 0.07%
6. Ed 400. Slash = 50.71%, Wincest = 33.96%, Het = 11.21%, Gen = 32.44%, Pairing:Not:Known = 07.63% Femslash 0.10% RPF 15.58%
7. Ed 450. Slash = 50.35%, Wincest = 33.75%, Het = 12.50%, Gen = 32.15%, Pairing:Not:Known = 06.53% Femslash 0.14% RPF 15.31%
8. Ed 500. Slash = 50.41%, Wincest = 33.39%, Het = 13.11%, Gen = 32.01%, Pairing:Not:Known = 06.75% Femslash 0.16% RPF 15.74%
9. Ed 550. Slash = 50.81%, Wincest = 33.23%, Het = 13.64%, Gen = 31.62%, Pairing:Not:Known = 06.42% Femslash 0.17% RPF 16.42%
10. Ed 600. Slash = 51.15%, Wincest = 33.40%, Het = 13.95%, Gen = 31.39%, Pairing:Not:Known = 06.15% Femslash 0.19% RPF 16.64%
11. Ed 650. Slash = 51.43%, Wincest = 33.27%, Het = 14.42%, Gen = 31.39%, Pairing:Not:Known = 05.58% Femslash 0.24% RPF 17.04%
12. Ed 700. Slash = 51.87%, Wincest = 33.32%, Het = 14.57%, Gen = 31.37%, Pairing:Not:Known = 05.13% Femslash 0.26% RPF 17.38%
13. Ed 750. Slash = 52.18%, Wincest = 33.45%, Het = 14.67%, Gen = 31.34%, Pairing:Not:Known = 04.79% Femslash 0.29% RPF 17.58%
14. Ed 800. Slash = 52.30%, Wincest = 33.32%, Het = 14.68%, Gen = 31.28%, Pairing:Not:Known = 04.70% Femslash 0.31% RPF 17.87%
15. Ed 850. Slash = 52.52%, Wincest = 33.05%, Het = 14.74%, Gen = 31.18%, Pairing:Not:Known = 04.59% Femslash 0.30% RPF 18.44%
    Does not add to 100% as you can have het and slash in the same fic.

Backups: (eh)

1. Archive backup 30 November 2007 9:50 pm
2. Archive backup 30 December 2007 9:24 pm
3. Archive backup 01 February 2008 7.34 am
4. Archive backup 05 May 2008 10.02 pm
5. Archive backup 07 June 2008 8:07 am
6. Archive backup 07 July 2008 7:37 pm
7. Archive backup 19 October 2008 8:36 pm

Software:

1. Firefox 2.0.0.15
2. del.icio.us plugin 1.2.1 (tag direct from Firefox)
3. Greasemonkey scripts for Alpha sort and Tag/Bundle management. (useful but by no means essential)

Account Problems:

1. Tags only displaying when 2 or more tags present - emailed customer support 30 Dec 2007.
   - Rebuilt the account, this did not solve the problem.
   - Only happens for certain browser/operating system combinations.
   - Reinstall of Firefox and plugins fixed it.
2. Search 'Your Bookmarks" failing - emailed customer support 30 Dec 2007.
   - Rebuilt the account, this changed the error message but did not resolve the problem.
   - Customer support advises it is a known problem and will be addressed in the next build.

Comments

[waterofthemoon.livejournal.com]

Hi! Okay, so first? You are a absolute STAR for doing this. The del.icio.us is a thing of BEAUTY. ♥♥♥

Second, I do need to report an inaccurate listing. My "Red Carpet Closet" was incorrectly tagged with kashmir1's tag, and the link you have goes to where it was crosslinked on padacklesrps and not the actual entry (http://waterofthemoon.livejournal.com/213414.html). (Which isn't your fault, as I'm sure that's how it was coded in the NL--it's just not the most accurate link.) If both of those things could be corrected, I'd be very much appreciative.

Thank you so much for all your hard work! As a reader, it's an invaluable resource, and as a coder, it does my heart good to see that the product of all those late nights doesn't just vanish into the ether. :D

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Thank *you* for your lovely words!

It took me a couple of months to commit to doing it... looked like a lot of work but being able to search? So nice!

All fixed! Let me know if it still needs love.

[unperfectwolf.livejournal.com]

HI THAR! I kinda want you babies and you should totally ask for help if you need it because there are many out there who will help. I would!

Also, because I am VERY AWESOME and confusing anything tagged rememberbefore should be tagged unperfectwolf because half the NL editors pick up authors by URL and I post all my fic to an open journal. Also, if you want me to, I can find specific links to a cowritten series, so that waterofthemoon can be tagged for them as well.

Let me know how to make any of this easier for you. Because holy shit this is amazing.

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

That is totally working for me because I was waiting for uterine replicators before having babies!

Thank you for the offer of help. I have no idea how much I'll need to do in the way of maintenance right now. Right now it's easy, the database is mostly built and minor changes are just 'find+replace' or 'cut/paste'.

All instances of 'Rememberbefore' have been replaced with 'Unperfectwolf'. Yes, give me links and tell me how you wants them and I'll update.

[iamstealthyone.livejournal.com]

Wow, what a great resource! Thanks so much for putting in so much time on this project. :)

I do have one correction on the list of my fics. You attributed a story to me that I didn't write: "The Hazards of Being Sam Winchester." That was written by someone else. :)

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

It's been a pleasure!

The Hazards of Being Sam Winchester: Fixed!

[femmenerd.livejournal.com]

Holy crap. This is amazing - a great fandom resource and obviously a labor of love on your part. So much so that it makes me feel bad to even make this list of corrections as far as my fic goes. But you know, just for whenever, FYI, since you asked, etc...

++My RPF story "Little Earthquakes" is tagged as Jared/Jensen slash but it is actually Jared/Lauren Graham and het. Here is the post supernatural_fic links to: http://community.livejournal.com/super_real/440327.html
That's a link to a community posting - the direct link is here: http://femmenerd.livejournal.com/233065.html

++My story "Five Times Jan Winchester Knew Better Than Her Daddy" is tagged as "pairing not known." It's part of a 'verse that's Faith/Dean if that matters. http://femmenerd.livejournal.com/276716.html

++"Two To Tango" (which is also a Faith/Dean fic) has um, significant femslash in it. http://femmenerd.livejournal.com/234956.html

++There is also significant femslash (and some boyslash) in "In The Pink" (Jared/Sandy/Danneel/Jensen). http://femmenerd.livejournal.com/226536.html

++"Never Seen Blue" is het Wincest (girl!Dean): http://femmenerd.livejournal.com/186783.html

++"Big Girls Don't Cry" is femslash (girl!Sam/Jess): http://femmenerd.livejournal.com/143779.html

Anyway, yeah, I write weird semi-unclassifiable or multiply classifiable fic, I guess! Sorry to be confusing! Though--hee!--half of these are just "BTW, there's hardcore lesbian sex in that!" :P

Thank you again for doing this!

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

You ARE that girl with the genderbending pairings :p

This is *exactly* what I am asking for and you are doing me a huge favor by quality checking - I know there will be errors and I can't personally check all 17,000 links.

OK I've fixed all the ones you've given me and thank you - very easy to follow.

Given that you have written a foursome - do you have preferences as to how you would like the pairings tagged?

My preference right now is :

Jared/Sandy/Danneel/Jensen +
Jared/Jensen +
Jared/Sandy +
Jensen/Danneel +
Sandy/Danneel

This way you can drill down via as many ways as possible. I tend to leave out pairings if they are so unusual that they might as well just be represented in the group sex listing = Jared/Sandy/Danneel/Jensen.

[yourlibrarian]

An amazing and really useful project. I wanted to ask what the date range is. When you say all fic posted in the newsletter, do you mean since the newsletter started posting?

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Thank you ;-)

I started here (http://community.livejournal.com/spnnewsletter/739.html) which is Edition 1. 2006-02-17 and just worked my way forward.

[greenapricot.livejournal.com]

This is absolutely amazing and you are amazing for doing this.

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the support, I'm very much feeling that it was time well spent right now!

[azephirin.livejournal.com]

WOW. So much crack in organized format for our perusing pleasure! Thank you so much for doing this!

I have minor suggestions for one of mine (http://del.icio.us/supernatural_fic/azephirin). For the main link to "Cracked Stars Shining," I do have an index page: http://azephirin.livejournal.com/16314.html. (It was never posted to the newsletter, so you didn't miss anything.) And the story's het, with the pairing of Dean Winchester/Hermione Granger (don't judge! *hides*).

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Yay! I'm so pleased with the response, I would have loved it even if it was just me but this is very cool.

Thank you so much for the link to the master post - there should be more of these in the world! I've updated the URL and the tags.

*g* I do not judge!

[missqteeone.livejournal.com]

I haven't decided if you're crazy or smarter than everyone else in the fandom. LOL. That was seriously a lot of work. I also didn't know I was in the newsletter that often. lol.

and my user name is missqteeone the way you have it the 'q' is a 'g'

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

erwell the books are alphabetised and so are the spices but the washing is still out so I'm voting for a combined surge of impulsive and organised.

Fixed! All instances of 'Missgteeone' have been replaced with 'Missqteeone'

Thanks for letting me know ;-)

[ciaan]

Hi! This looks like an awesome project. :) Loads of work and a great resource for people, so thank you.

I just have a couple notes/corrections on some of my fic. (My tag is: http://del.icio.us/supernatural_fic/Ciaan )


New Kind of Kick
to RPF Slash Het Jared/Jensen Jared/Sandy Jensen/Sandy Ciaan Rating:R

It's actually Jared/Sandy/Adrianne (Palicki). No Jensen. I remember the newsletter listed it weirdly, though, so. It's het and femmeslash. (If you're looking for a new tag to add to your system, a threesome tag would rock.)


Heart-Shaped Beds, Room-Service Vibrators, and Other Tacky Accoutrements
to Supernatural Gen Ciaan Rating:NC-17

I guess technically this is gen, since it has no pairing (or too many pairings to list), but it looks a little funny saying so, because it's total PWP. Masturbation, though (Dean and Sam). I don't know if you have a way to classify that.


Drive
to Supernatural Pairing:Not:Known Ciaan Rating:R

This doesn't have a pairing, so that tag is probably unnecessary. It's gen, and it's about Dean's relationship with the Impala.


I love writing strange, unclassifiable fic, and I'm sorry that makes it difficult for people like you who are trying to organize and sort everything.

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Thank you so much for the compliments and also for the information ;-)

New Kind of Kick Fixed! I thought about the threesome tag (http://black-samvara.livejournal.com/302909.html) and what I ended up wanting is a word that means 'group sex' so I can put all the non-twosome pairings into a single category. I haven't settled on a term I'm completely happy with yet - if you have the perfect suggestion I'd love to hear it.

Heart-Shaped Beds, Room-Service Vibrators, and Other Tacky Accouterments. I hear you, there should be some sort of warning. For the time being I've retitled it: Heart-Shaped Beds, Room-Service Vibrators, and Other Tacky Accouterments (PWP, Masturbation) Does that work for you?

Drive Fixed! Mostly what happened here is that I was moving at speed so if the newsletter didn't specify I just gave it a tag that meant I could come back and find it later - I've been slowly cleaning up all the not known tags ever since.

[hossgal.livejournal.com]

Firstly - wow. I think the name they used for this sort of thing was 'Hero Project'. This is *very* impressive, and something the fandom needs, as scattered as we are.

A few corrections:

'All Fall Down' is linked to http://community.livejournal.com/spn_gen/729899.html and should be linked to : http://ghosthunters.cairdean.com/archive/1/allfall.html

'Eight Days A Week' is linked to http://community.livejournal.com/spn_gen/530471.html and should be linked to: http://ghosthunters.cairdean.com/archive/1/eightdays.html

'I Waited Here For Your Returning' is linked to http://hossgal.livejournal.com/133208.html and should be linked to: http://ghosthunters.cairdean.com/archive/0/iwaited.html

'Oranges' is linked to http://hossgal.livejournal.com/116946.html and should be linked to http://ghosthunters.cairdean.com/archive/0/oranges.html

'Their Blood Has Washed Out' is linked at: http://community.livejournal.com/spn_gen/518818.html and should be linked to: http://ghosthunters.cairdean.com/archive/1/theirblood.html


Thanks a lot for all your hard work.

- hossgal

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Yay!

Thanks so much for giving me the correct links - I love your writing and it pleases me to think I can help other people can find it.

[scribblesinink]

Wow... just... wow! I only accidentally stumbled upon this, but have bookmarked the del.icio.us right away! Thank you, this makes things so much easier (and I can't believe the amount of fic... :))

Anyway, if you can change the attribution of "mooncross" to scribblesinink, much appreciated. I changed my username... Sorry!

Also, any instance where the url reads http://community.livejournal.com/mooncross_fic/ (all 3 stories listed for mooncross, and several of the ones for scribblesinink) can be changed to http://community.livejournal.com/scribblerfic/ Whenever you feel like it! LJ is nice enough to redirect to the correct page anyway, so the links are still valid.

And I have to say it again: wow!

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Yay! I'm so glad it makes you happy; I knew there was a lot of fic but the sheer volume is impressive!

All instances of 'Mooncross' changed to 'Scribblesinink' and I've updated the URLS.

Thank you so much for letting me know!

[sideofzen.livejournal.com]

I some how stumbled upon your del. account and I have to say, it is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen. I am completely jealous and wish I had anything to do with Supernatural fandom! WOW! What amazing work.

If only other fandoms could get as organized.

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

*waves shiny fandom at you*

You luuurve this fandom, you want to have it's babies.

Thank you for sharing your enthusiasm, it warms my heart!

I think SGA used to have someone who maintained a similar setup and it is why I support the otw_news Archive (http://transformativeworks.org/projects/archive.html) project... Archive... *dribbles*

[hossgal.livejournal.com]

A suggestion (in case you're running out of things to do...*g*)

Could gen stories be sorted by character - esp if they're not Sam or Dean?

...just a thought.

- hg

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

*g* Just holding my ground right now - I'd love to add 'character' and 'genre' filters, it's just very time consuming.

Thanks for the suggestion - I appreciate the feedback.

[dotfic.livejournal.com]

Hi, I have two corrections:

"Tools of the Trade" (see here (http://del.icio.us/supernatural_fic/Dotfic)) isn't by me, it's by eloise_bright (the newsletter accidentally miscoded.)

Also, one of my fics (from a long while back) is missing from my list, Recoil (http://dotfic.livejournal.com/7606.html). [ETA: which predates spnnewsletter. So I'm not sure if it can get included anyway...]

Thanks!

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Thank you so much!

I should have picked up the eloise_bright problem when I was doing the Character tags... bad me.

I've added Recoil - I'll cheerfully add extra stories when they come to my attention; it's now the spnnewsletter + 'stuff'. Also: I *loved* that story :)

[halfshellvenus.livejournal.com]

Wow. I didn't expect this to lead back to you! This is quite a project you've got going. :0

I'm just commenting because this was the "Report Corrections" link I found for the del.icio.us supernatural_fic group, and there were a few pieces tagged as "mine" that I didn't write. So here goes, the story titles and the people who actually DID write them:

*KEYSMASH* - kashmir1 and kueble

"I Think He Likes Me" - immoralily

"There's No Clue to The Answer We All Know" - hugemind

"The Costume Party" - deathbymutation

"Carrie Made Me Do It" - wildwordwomyn


Thanks so much for this incredible project! \o/

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

I get therapy regularly! Really.

Thanks for much for letting me know, I appreciate you taking the time! It turns out that my one-to-the-left-autofill typo for 'Jared/Jensen' is 'Halfshellvenus'. I've fixed them all up now.

[loose-pages-sd.livejournal.com]

Hi there! I've been really impressed with what you've done with this project-- it's very cool! In fact, it's inspired me to do my own project--tagging an SPN RPS AU list. It's in the planning stages right now. I hope you don't mind if I use your documentation as a starting point!

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Hello and thank you!

Actually, this might be crazy-talk so feel free to back away slowly but http://del.icio.us/supernatural_fic (supernatural_fic) currently has 3889 CW:RPF items tagged and if you wanted to come on in and enhance them, rather than starting a separate site, I'd be overjoyed to have you on board.

I'm happy to give you the password and you could add whatever tags (AU, Schmoop, Romance, PWP) made you happy. Ditto if there are fic that aren't tagged and you wanted to add them to the collection that would be awesome.

This is totally up to you of course but if you *were* interested... *tries to look alluring*

Cheers, Samvara

[alphabet26.livejournal.com]

Hi, thanks so much for doing this! I have been having so much fun looking through it. But you have a fic that I wrote, "Snipe Hunt," tagged as written by myself and Roseganymede. I'm sure Roseganymede is a lovely person, but I wrote that fic by myself.

Thanks again, this is amazing.

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Fixed, I'm sure she is too! Thank you so much for letting me know ;-)

Author Correction

[blueiris08.livejournal.com]

A quick note: you have xxsh0tgun's story, "She Smiles," (http://del.icio.us/url/364572fa17e3892d9524a601c395caeb) coded as mine. Could you fix that, so the author gets the credit she deserves? The same thing appears in Edition 810 of the newsletter; I commented there as well.

Thanks!

Re: Author Correction

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Hiya, fixed and thank you so much for letting me know!

[sororcula.livejournal.com]

Hi! So first of all, I think you're kind of amazing, and in fact this project is tempting me to create something similar for a (thankfully) much smaller fandom that I'm part of.

I just have a small correction. My tag should be Sororcula (http://delicious.com/supernatural_fic/Sororcula), but there also exist tags for two misspellings: Sorcula (http://delicious.com/supernatural_fic/Sorcula) and Sorocula (http://delicious.com/supernatural_fic/Sorocula).

Thanks. :-)

[black-samvara.livejournal.com]

Thank you! It's not a huge amount of work to maintain once you get up and running and there are definitely benefits :) Also, what fandom? *is curious*

I'm so sorry about the typos, I tag at speed (usually while watching TV) and I don't always get it right. Thank you for letting me know - fixed now!