I'm going to have to go back and watch Flesh and Bone because I have this memory of her going to see Leoben and him already knowing who she was and that being significant. I see his current attachment to her as being a result of their intense exchange.
What I loved about that episode (among many things) is that Starbuck goes from regarding Leoben as a thing, to seeing him as a person. She tries to save his life because she's come to understand that he is alive and he is a person and she values that.
I think back in Flesh and Bone he responded to her being intensely emotional, connecting with him and understanding him by deciding they have this mystical connection to each other.
I also agree with you on her status with the Cylons, I think the Cylons have Plans for Starbuck, I think she is someone on their radar, someone with a Purpose.
My take on Leoben is based on the fact that he has designed this little love-nest and is enacting a relationship at her and has been for four months. He talks to her about how she is going to come to her senses and realise she loves him and it speaks to me of freaky obsession.
Brainwashing usually involves things like changing a persons environment (CHECK), sleep patterns (CHECK), clothes (CHECK), food (CHECK), isolating them (CHECK), exposing them to indoctrination (CHECK).
He isn't relating to her as a person, he's relating to her as a thing. To me that makes the way he treats her really creepy.
This is BEAUTIFULLY ironic given the sequence in Flesh and Bone.
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I'm going to have to go back and watch Flesh and Bone because I have this memory of her going to see Leoben and him already knowing who she was and that being significant. I see his current attachment to her as being a result of their intense exchange.
What I loved about that episode (among many things) is that Starbuck goes from regarding Leoben as a thing, to seeing him as a person. She tries to save his life because she's come to understand that he is alive and he is a person and she values that.
I think back in Flesh and Bone he responded to her being intensely emotional, connecting with him and understanding him by deciding they have this mystical connection to each other.
I also agree with you on her status with the Cylons, I think the Cylons have Plans for Starbuck, I think she is someone on their radar, someone with a Purpose.
My take on Leoben is based on the fact that he has designed this little love-nest and is enacting a relationship at her and has been for four months. He talks to her about how she is going to come to her senses and realise she loves him and it speaks to me of freaky obsession.
Brainwashing usually involves things like changing a persons environment (CHECK), sleep patterns (CHECK), clothes (CHECK), food (CHECK), isolating them (CHECK), exposing them to indoctrination (CHECK).
He isn't relating to her as a person, he's relating to her as a thing. To me that makes the way he treats her really creepy.
This is BEAUTIFULLY ironic given the sequence in Flesh and Bone.